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		<title>By: Emilia</title>
		<link>http://www.lesliegilmour.com/aer-lingus-rip-off/comment-page-1/#comment-77</link>
		<dc:creator>Emilia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 07:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like your writing, whatever the subject. The serious life in Japan make me hungry for spiritual/humorous debauchery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like your writing, whatever the subject. The serious life in Japan make me hungry for spiritual/humorous debauchery.</p>
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		<title>By: Longman Oz</title>
		<link>http://www.lesliegilmour.com/aer-lingus-rip-off/comment-page-1/#comment-76</link>
		<dc:creator>Longman Oz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 12:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess that I would draw a distinction between a distinct lack of transparency in the upfront price charged and what I would consider to be outright and deliberate lying.

For me, the latter would be if an airline was EXPLICITLY saying that the upfront price IS the cost knowing full well that it would then be lumping the customer with a whole bunch of extra costs afterwards. As far as I know, they make no such statement.

Indeed, while I do not have an advertisement to hand, I imagine that there is a &quot;terms and conditions apply&quot; worked in somewhere. The standard catch-all CYA!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess that I would draw a distinction between a distinct lack of transparency in the upfront price charged and what I would consider to be outright and deliberate lying.</p>
<p>For me, the latter would be if an airline was EXPLICITLY saying that the upfront price IS the cost knowing full well that it would then be lumping the customer with a whole bunch of extra costs afterwards. As far as I know, they make no such statement.</p>
<p>Indeed, while I do not have an advertisement to hand, I imagine that there is a &#8220;terms and conditions apply&#8221; worked in somewhere. The standard catch-all CYA!</p>
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		<title>By: Leslie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leslie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 12:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I have always checked in online - that is the problem this morning - just don&#039;t know how I ended up there and where I would be normally, anyway...

Yes, some clarification.  The staff I have dealt with at Aer Lingus are generally very helpful - man I don&#039;t want to hurt myself on  that one - that includes booking in and on the plane.

Scumbag refers to the people who make these stupid decisions about not being transparent about pricing.  Is it not better public relations to stand up saying we want everyone to publish the full cost of flying on a route?  Be the one leading the pack instead they resort to underhand selling practices.

As for the pricing - it is lying - and I am in good company with the EU trying to force transparent pricing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I have always checked in online &#8211; that is the problem this morning &#8211; just don&#8217;t know how I ended up there and where I would be normally, anyway&#8230;</p>
<p>Yes, some clarification.  The staff I have dealt with at Aer Lingus are generally very helpful &#8211; man I don&#8217;t want to hurt myself on  that one &#8211; that includes booking in and on the plane.</p>
<p>Scumbag refers to the people who make these stupid decisions about not being transparent about pricing.  Is it not better public relations to stand up saying we want everyone to publish the full cost of flying on a route?  Be the one leading the pack instead they resort to underhand selling practices.</p>
<p>As for the pricing &#8211; it is lying &#8211; and I am in good company with the EU trying to force transparent pricing.</p>
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		<title>By: Longman Oz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Longman Oz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 12:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few things:

(1) This system has been in place for quite some time now alright. I remember being somewhat cross about it when it was first brought in, but it came as no surprise at the same time.

(2) If you check in online, you can book your seat for free (!) then. This is what I do. :-)

(3) My experience is that only the first 8-10 rows or so tend to be pre-booked by business people travelling without bags in the hold, etc. and just wanting to get off quickly. If your concern is simply a question of sitting beside your travel partner(s), I have never found this to be a problem, unless you turn up really late to check in.

(4) While I fully agree that the pricing of tickets has become quite far-fetched in terms of initial pricing / ultimate pricing, Aer Lingus staff on the craft / ground remain some of the nicest people that you meet when flying. I think that this represents a company ethos that has survived all of the turmoil of the past decade. Consequently, I would not call them a scumbag company without clarifying that remark somewhat.

(5) You presumably mean &quot;in your opinion, the approach of Aer Lingus when it comes to advertising, could be considered a form of lying&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few things:</p>
<p>(1) This system has been in place for quite some time now alright. I remember being somewhat cross about it when it was first brought in, but it came as no surprise at the same time.</p>
<p>(2) If you check in online, you can book your seat for free (!) then. This is what I do. <img src='http://www.lesliegilmour.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>(3) My experience is that only the first 8-10 rows or so tend to be pre-booked by business people travelling without bags in the hold, etc. and just wanting to get off quickly. If your concern is simply a question of sitting beside your travel partner(s), I have never found this to be a problem, unless you turn up really late to check in.</p>
<p>(4) While I fully agree that the pricing of tickets has become quite far-fetched in terms of initial pricing / ultimate pricing, Aer Lingus staff on the craft / ground remain some of the nicest people that you meet when flying. I think that this represents a company ethos that has survived all of the turmoil of the past decade. Consequently, I would not call them a scumbag company without clarifying that remark somewhat.</p>
<p>(5) You presumably mean &#8220;in your opinion, the approach of Aer Lingus when it comes to advertising, could be considered a form of lying&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: paul - problogger</title>
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		<dc:creator>paul - problogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 11:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think they make it look more like you have to book the seat now,  i.e. along the lines of the insurance.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.askaboutmoney.com/showthread.php?p=483254&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Thread on ABM &lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think they make it look more like you have to book the seat now,  i.e. along the lines of the insurance.  <a href="http://www.askaboutmoney.com/showthread.php?p=483254" rel="nofollow">Thread on ABM </a></p>
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		<title>By: Admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 11:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How did I miss this on all my other flights - I have flown with them about ten times during the last year - ah man I hate when I am so late to the party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How did I miss this on all my other flights &#8211; I have flown with them about ten times during the last year &#8211; ah man I hate when I am so late to the party.</p>
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		<title>By: jedrzej</title>
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		<dc:creator>jedrzej</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 11:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must say that I never could and still can&#039;t understand this kind of moaning.

Ok - they add insurance automatically. It&#039;s a lousy move, but not a rip off.

They made choosing your seat a paid service - so what? Lousy move again, but this has nothing to do with life, rip offs or whatever.

They lie in ads. And? Don&#039;t fly with them, if you want to punish them.

Regards :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must say that I never could and still can&#8217;t understand this kind of moaning.</p>
<p>Ok &#8211; they add insurance automatically. It&#8217;s a lousy move, but not a rip off.</p>
<p>They made choosing your seat a paid service &#8211; so what? Lousy move again, but this has nothing to do with life, rip offs or whatever.</p>
<p>They lie in ads. And? Don&#8217;t fly with them, if you want to punish them.</p>
<p>Regards <img src='http://www.lesliegilmour.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: paul - problogger</title>
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		<dc:creator>paul - problogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 11:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I think the charge was there since last year, it was at Christmas when I flew with them. Actually &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.easier.com/view/Travel/Flights/Aer_Lingus/article-108118.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here is the press release from April 2007&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I think the charge was there since last year, it was at Christmas when I flew with them. Actually <a href="http://www.easier.com/view/Travel/Flights/Aer_Lingus/article-108118.html" rel="nofollow">here is the press release from April 2007</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 10:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had my last flight about four weeks ago and had booked 4/5 weeks before that - so I just discovered the change.

Just make the price transparent is all I ask for and stop lying in the adverts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had my last flight about four weeks ago and had booked 4/5 weeks before that &#8211; so I just discovered the change.</p>
<p>Just make the price transparent is all I ask for and stop lying in the adverts.</p>
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		<title>By: paul - problogger</title>
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		<dc:creator>paul - problogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 10:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s been like this for a bit.

You are paying for the convince and piece of mind, knowing that you will be sitting beside your partner, being at the top of the plane, or having an exit row.

paul</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s been like this for a bit.</p>
<p>You are paying for the convince and piece of mind, knowing that you will be sitting beside your partner, being at the top of the plane, or having an exit row.</p>
<p>paul</p>
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